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One of the unfortunate consequences of the marginalization of Mormonism in American culture is the persistence of an “us vs. them” attitude that is pervasive throughout Mormon culture.  From its beginnings, Mormonism faced tremendous religious criticism (as does any new religious tradition) from mainstream Christianity.  This religious criticism subsided (but did not disappear) when the Mormons moved from Illinois to Utah  in an effort to exist in relative isolation.

From 1852 through the end of the 19th century, Mormonism faced its biggest challenge from secular forces who were concerned about both the Mormon practice of polygamy and the political influence of Church leaders within the Utah territory.

In the latter half of the 20th century Mormonism again came under significant attack from so-called Christian “counter-cult” movements (Isn’t it ironic that this link takes you to a domain called Religious Tolerance when the site itself promotes nothing but intolerance?).  Within popular vernacular the word, cult, has incredibly negative connotations and usually conjures up images of Jim Jones and the People’s Temple.  Evangelical Christians are the most likely to marginalize Mormons by labeling them as “cult members” but there are some areas, in the United States at least, where more mainline Christians Churches have joined in on the “Mormonism is a cult” bandwagon.

It is no wonder then, that members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints get defensive when their religious beliefs, the policies of their Church, and the Church itself receive criticism.  As a result, Latter-day Saint culture often reflects a black and white worldview that is divided into pro-Mormons and anti-Mormons.  Of course I speak in generalities here.  Not every Latter-day Saint holds to this view but it is pervasive enough throughout Mormon culture — as a remnant of the Mormon past — that I believe it deserves to be addressed.

I would like to think of myself as living proof that such a black/white dichotomy is at best incomplete, and at worst harmful to members of the LDS Church and others ancillary to it.

Critic

I believe there are two major types of LDS critics; those who are critical of particular Church policies and practices, and those who are critical of specific LDS truth claims.  If I am to be considered a Mormon critic, I would fit in the former category as I have no real interest in the veracity of Mormon truth claims.  Granted, when I get together with my Mormon buddies who find such things interesting, we’ll discuss Mormon doctrine critically — meaning we will analyze specific doctrinal truth claims in an academic, rather than a strictly spiritual way.

Frankly, I have no real interest in criticizing Mormon truth claims, even though there are many I don’t personally find plausible (see below).  The same theological and historical criticisms of Mormonism have been around for a long time.  I have nothing to add and even if I did, I have no interest in doing so.

So, while I am not a critic of Mormon truth-claims; I am a critic of some LDS Church policies.  Namely, I vehemently disagree with the Church’s stance on Same-sex Marriage and I have made my views public on several occasions.  Most of my criticism of the Church’s stance came right after the Proposition 8 fallout in 2008.  I have many close gay and lesbian friends and one, in particular, who’s Mormon family disowned him after he “came out” in 2008.  I want to stress that this is not typical of Mormon families.  Most Mormon families with gay or lesbian members struggle with it, but in the end they ultimately accept their son/daughter/sibling despite the fact that Mormon doctrine is clearly opposed to homosexuality.  My open criticism of this policy came as a result of my personal relationships with friends who were deeply hurt by this particular Church position.

Having said that, I become extremely frustrated when people try and label Mormons as “homophobic” or “bigots” etc…  Its just not that simple.  My mother, for example, absolutely adores my gay friend Devan but she supports the Church in its policy.  This is not bigotry.

The other Church policy I have been openly critical of is the one-year waiting period required to receive what is known as a temple sealing if they chose to have a civil ceremony first.  I understand the origins and intent of the policy but at this point in time I feel it does more harm than good.  Additionally, it only applies in the United States (and perhaps Canada).  Most countries require a civil wedding ceremony.  In those countries the Church does not require a waiting period.  To me the current policy is antiquated and counter-productive.  I would not be surprised to see this policy change at some point in the next 5-10 years.

Apostate

Am I an apostate?  My own personal views are rather heterodox and some things I enjoy (in terms of the Word of Wisdom etc…) are certainly heteroprax but I think it is completely inappropriate to call me an apostate. I love attending Church and participating in Church  activities.  Simply put, I like being a Mormon and as I’ve stated above, Mormon truth-claims are really not all that important to me.  Serving within my Mormon community is what matters.

Within the online Mormon community there is an intelligent Mormon apologist named William Schryver.  In particular, Will is incredibly well versed in the issues surrounding Mormonism’s Book of Abraham.  Unfortunately, Will’s style is incredibly confrontational and Will has, on more than a few occasions, discussed those whom he considers to be members of a “fifth column” within the LDS Church.  To my knowledge, Will has never identified me as being a member of this (imaginary) “fifth column” but he has been quite vocal about John Dehlin — the founder of Stay LDS and Mormon Stories — being a part of this (imaginary) “fifth column” movement.

John and I have corresponded through email and I know John’s goal is to help people — like me — who decide they don’t accept some or all of Mormonism’s specific truth-claims find ways to stay Mormon and navigate Mormon culture as a non-believer.

My intention here is not to criticize Will in particular.  Rather, I am being critical of this attitude that exists within Mormon culture.  Quite simply, it can potentially drive people away.  For Will, or anyone else, to claim that heterodox Mormons are part of a conspiracy to change, alter, or possibly even “bring down” the Church only serves to make those with different viewpoints feel unwelcome and unloved.

In my Ward here in Manhattan I encountered no such attitude.  My Bishop knows and trusts me, as do my ward members.  Yes, my views are heterodox, but they are my own.  I am no advocate.

Apologist

In many ways I do consider myself to be a Mormon apologist — or at least a defender who is willing to discredit absurd and idiotic attacks on the LDS Church.  Some of my previous blog posts demonstrate this type of apologetic.  See here, here and here for example.

Granted, I am not trying to defend the historicity of the Book of Mormon or the authenticity of the Book of Abraham — I believe both to be apocryphal.  However, I will defend Mormonism against offensive and absurd attacks.  For example, consider this lovely and insightful commentary which comes to us courtesty of Greg Laden discussing the fact that the State of Utah would like to count Utah residents serving two-year missions overseas or domestically in the 2010 census.  The title of Greg’s post is “Utah wants to count Mormon Missionaries in census.”  The post itself contains this little nugget:

But they can’t, because they don’t freakin’ live in Utah.

But I wish they did. Hey, has anyone noticed a marked increase in these drones from Utah in South Minneapolis lately? What do they think they are goig to accomplish there?

In Greg’s comment section I stated the following:

“Drones from Utah …”

What insightful commentary. These are young men and women who voluntarily, and at their own expense go out and proselyte, yes , but also engage in countless service projects in communities throughout the world.

So you don’t agree with their religion … when they knock on your door just say “no thanks.”

I served a mission for the LDS Church at my own expense.  I spent a large chunk of my mission on the San Carlos Apache Indian Reservation where we were involved in many service projects ranging from caring for the sick to assisting in larger community activities.

I wonder when the last time Greg gave up two years of his life, at  a cost of  $400 – 500 per month to provide service to others.  Greg, if you are reading these please chime in.

Anyone who criticizes Mormon missionaries is going to get an earful from me.  As I told Greg, if you aren’t interested just say “no thanks.”  There are a lot of Jehovah’s Witnesses in the Subway here in NYC at times, each of them handing out copies of the Watchtower or Awake magazines.  A simple and polite “no thanks” does the trick.  These Jehovah’s Witnesses have a faithful conviction.  I respect them for that.

As far as my academic work on Mormonism is concerned, I have always tried to place Mormon history, theology and practice within its proper context.  There have been times when we have made big mistakes but those mistakes must be understood in context to avoid falling into the trap of presentism.

In truth, I believe I am a loyal critic, a heterodox Mormon, and a defender of my faith tradition.  If there is a fifth column within Mormonism I have yet to receive my membership card.  Maybe it’s time for me to email John Dehlin again…..

 

 

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8 Responses to “Am I a Mormon Critic, Apostate, or Apologist?”

  1. Sione says:

    Regarding your Christianity, where do you fall?

    Sione

  2. sethpayne says:

    Sione,

    I think my position is pretty much the same. The parts of Christianity that deserve criticism should be criticized. I, for one, think Paul was the worst thing to ever happen to Christianity as I think his theology represents such a departure from the very simple teachings of Jesus.

    Give me Peter and James any day. :)

  3. Mark Bukowski says:

    Seth
    I do not see you in any way as an “apostate” but as a very honest and forthright individual who believes what he says and says what he believes. We disagree in some areas, but most reasonable people do disagree- doing so “reasonably” is the goal. You’re a good guy Seth!

    Love the look of your blog!

  4. sethpayne says:

    Thanks Mark.

    I always appreciate your insight. Despite any differences any of us may have regarding the Church, its policies or doctrines, I really do think we are working toward the same goal: serving others.

    You remind me of my Brother who served as a Bishop for 5 or 6 years and is now on the High Council. I’m sure one day soon I’ll be calling him Stake President Payne. He has nothing but love and compassion for his flock and I get the impression you are the same way.

  5. Andrew S. says:

    Don’t have much to really add here other than to say I think you’re spot-on.

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  7. Bill Smith says:

    I’ve been reading about Thomas Jefferson’s religious beliefs – “I am of a sect by myself, as far as I know” – and settled upon heterodox Mormon as a good description of who I “am.” And this led me to your post. Nicely said.

  8. BHodges says:

    My intention here is not to criticize Will in particular. Rather, I am being critical of this attitude that exists within Mormon culture. Quite simply, it can potentially drive people away.

    From what I’ve seen from Will this is precisely what he would *like* to see happen.

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